I have some things I need to say to Beyonce about the content of her new album. This convo between me and Keyz aka Hollywood aka Tha Kid, the author or “You Heard That New…”.
KeYz0382: Did u check my shiiitt?
Lalafrmatl: oh u mean u FINALLY updated nig?
Lalafrmatl: I’m reading now. and biggie was SO not better than Pac, in your mind or anywhere else
KeYz0382: That’s why it says….IN MY MIND
Lalafrmatl: and that’s fine. I’m just commenting
Lalafrmatl: and you know what I’m not hating on beyonce b/c of her songs. most of the songs I’ve heard so far i like… but she’s trying to pass off songs like “Freekum Dress” and singing to her pussy in “Kitty Kat” as “female empowerment”, a record that “women need to hear”.
Telling a girl to put on a short ass, tight ass dress and stick her ass out cuz her man ain’t giving her no dick is NOT female empowerment. Don’t try to make it deep. Say it’s a party record w/only 1 ballad on it. Don’t bullshit the fans into thinking this is a return to “Independent Woman” Beyonce b/c she got so much flack for “Cater 2 U” and songs like that
Lalafrmatl: the songs on B’Day are hot as hell. Her production is the shit and “Resentment” is the best song she’s ever written
KeYz0382: I love resentment
Lalafrmatl: I’m glad she didn’t do Dangerously in Love pt 2. But do NOT try to pass it off as female empowerment
KeYz0382 : Did she say that??
Lalafrmatl: YES SHE DID SAY THAT. Those are direct quotes
KeYz0382:People are never satisfied
Lalafrmatl : “B’Day is a album about female empowerment. It’s a record women NEED to hear. So I’m really proud of it”
KeYz0382: Shit it was lol
Lalafrmatl: her daddy needs always be in charge of her PR
KeYz0382: Damn people are reallllly tough on her. Like she’s their artist
Lalafrmatl: personally, I’m gonna buy her album on the day it comes out. but I don’t think the comments she has made about it are responsible or even smart. People are hard on her. She is the ONLY real black female artist out there doing her thing so until the standards in the industry change she’s gonna take the brunt of it. It’s not fair but she has a real responsibility
KeYz0382: You gotta let artist be ARTIST
Lalafrmatl: but is she an artist? or is she an entertainer? because there is a diference. I LOVE Beyonce. I have just about everything she’s ever touched. But I’d never call her an artist. To say she’s an artist would be to say that her songs will still be classics 30 yrs from now that people of all ages know and can sing by heart. And if “Freakum Dress” becomes a song my kids sing that changes their life I’m gonna to cry. You can say that about Stevie Wonder’s body of work as a whole. I don’t think u can say that about Beyonce. So i wouldn’t consider her an artist in as much as I would a really great entertainer
KeYz0382: She’s an artist. Period. Cassie is an entertainer
Lalafrmatl: CASSIE IS THE BULLSHIT
KeYz0382: Cheri Dennis is an entertainer, Danity Kane, Young Joc; entertainer
Lalafrmatl: and so is Beyonce. She might be better at it than all of them, but artistry is implying a certain quality, a consistency in your work. a certain calibur of your entire body of work and a responsibility for what it will say to the world and represent. She doesn’t have that
KeYz0382: Can Cassie or any other bitch get up there an blow like her?
Lalafrmatl: It’s not just about her voice. There’s o CONSISTENCY. “Resentment” stands alongside “Kitty Kat”. See, everyone thinks that just b/c you’re labeled an entertainer you can’t sing. I never said that and I don’t believe that. Beyonce can blow and her verbratto is so beautiful. I don’t think we’ll hear anything like it for many years. If you can’t sing you just SUCK. That doesnt mean u fall into entertainer catagory by default lol
KeYz0382: Its a song……….its not what she represents as a person……shit females feel like that……so why not express it. It don’t mean people have to sing it 30 years from now, and it don’t mean she’s not consistant.It just means she’s thinking about how a female would really think about it. Like I don’t think its her best work but I damn sure think its good work……
Lalafrmatl: b/c artistry is a complete representation of not only yourself but of the people you represent. She hasn’t put that much of herself into her music. Yes she’s polite and a good person. But who is she? What does she think? Why is she incapable of not giving the same rote answers in an interview? She’s a star. But she’s not an artist who is making music that will be affect her fans and actually SAY something. “Get Me Bodied” is not a statement. It doesnt say anything. B’Day is GREAT work. Vocally she sounds better than she ever has, her production is perfect. But is it art? Is it art just b/c she sounds good, has written her own songs, and her music is good? NO. That should be the standard. not the exception. We shouldn’t applaud people when they do it. That should be the VERY LEAST we expect from people
KeYz0382: Well if that’s the case………NO ONE out right now is an artist
Lalafrmatl: You’re exactly right. Our generation has AWESOME entertainers. Beyonce is AMAZING in concert. I’ve seen her twice and even have them all on dvd. But I wouldn’t call too much of anyone out right now an artist
KeYz0382: I mean seriously, I don’t think that if Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles were blind they woulda made the same music
Lalafrmatl: You might be right about that. But we can’t judge their careers based on conjecture. We have to take their body of work as is. I think Beyonce is fully capable of making an album that is artistically socially relevant and capable of stretching over generations. Will she ever do it? HELL NO. So I have to judge not what she COULD do, but what she HAS done
KeYz0382: U think pharrell is an artist?
Lalafrmatl: Actually I do
KeYz0382: Ok……so tell me this would u want ur son singing “shake ur money maker”……….drop it like its hot……..give it to me…… or some of his lyrics? What makes him different?
Lalafrmatl: nope I wouldn’t. But i am taking his artistry in relation to his genre. Hip hop made socially conscious songs but it also made party songs. It’s a part of of the foundation. So not everyone is responsible for making life altering Hip Hop. But you’ll never catch him saying “Light Your Ass on Fire” is an empowerment record for women. If u take Beyonce is relation to her genre, R&B, you mean to tell me you think “Kitty Kat” will stand up against “Through the Fire”? “Fairy Tales”? “Is it a Crime”? That it will be as beloved, as widely known and incorporated into the historic moments in people’s lives as “Ribbon in the Sky”?
KeYz0382: The times are completly……….DIFFERENT. Are they not?
Lalafrmatl: yes the times are different but we’ve taken this bullshit that we’ve been given and b/c its packaged nicely and marketed well we accept it. Nevermind that half our “artists” don’t sing live, can’t write music, don’t play an instrument, don’t even have anything musically going for themselves other than being marketable. We don’t hold our artists accountable anymore. Does everyone have to be all of those things? No. But shouldn’t you at least be somewhat musical, something other than pretty if you’re gonna be in the MUSIC business
KeYz0382: We tolerate this garbage. But I accept Beyonce as an artist during this time. Of all time? She’s not there yet. But she’s doing the best by far in our time
Lalafrmatl: ok i can see that. But should our standards of what an artist is be a sliding scale according to what year they come out?
KeYz0382: Will she equate to aretha……patti…..janet? I mean yes and no. Hell B’Day is a damn good album
Lalafrmatl: But don’t bullshit me and tell me it’s female empowerment. Tell me you made a party CD that you’re really proud of, that you sound really good on. Be HONEST. I’m so sick of people getting in interviews and giving these bullshit, rehearsed answers that don’t make sense. Now resentment? That’s female empowerment. Singing to your pussy? Notsomuch lol. So say you’ve got this great track on your album called resentment that you think every woman needs to hear. Don’t tell me that “Freakum Dress” is the song thats gonna empower me to be a better woman
KeYz0382: Well u have ur points and opinions and ur actually very accurate with them. It’s the best argument by far
KeYz0382: But I just think an “artist” of this time has a lot more to bring to the table
Lalafrmatl: No one can compare with Beyonce right now. I’d rather listen to her than Cassie ANY DAY
KeYz0382: Which why she is the best “artist” out right now. Cause there aren’t any artist out right now
Lalafrmatl: And I agree. I just think we’ve changed our standards of what artistry is to fit the talent out rather than changed the talent to fit the standard
KeYz0382: I think with the times we were forced 2. Yo can’t sing about civil rights or boycotting or historical shit like that
Lalafrmatl: I don’t think so. I think we accepted alot of crap from people who got into the business b/c it was lucrative and not b/c they LOVED it. And it bastardized it. No we can’t sing about that stuff. But you mean to tell me there are no social issues someone could sing about? Or hell, even personal issues someone could sing about?
KeYz0382: Personally the only one who can really get away with stuff like that still is Alicia Keys
KeYz0382: Nah ur right
Lalafrmatl: I love beyonce. But I feel like I dont get to see her on an album. Her issues, her thoughts, her insecurities, just her as a human. People give Christina Aguilerra alot of shit but I feel like she’s honest
KeYz0382: She is
Lalafrmatl: I feel like i have a good idea of who she is, what she’s been thru, what she stands for
KeYz0382: But at the same time exposing everything is a dangerous move
Lalafrmatl: I personally, am just tired of being lied to. Think abut it, Christina is honest, but do you really know anything personal about her marriage ? No. Alicia is honest but do you know anything about her relationship? No. There’s doing a reality show and opening yourself up to criticism, and then there’s just being plain honest. Considering how much responsibility Beyonce has as an artist b/c there is no one else representing young black women well right now to the degree that she does, I would think she would be more honest and not say that “Get me Bodied” or “Ring the Alarm” is womens’ empowerment